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#1701 2012-09-02 16:28

Re: Azoto oksido (NO) skatintojai ir energetikai

Jokotau rašė:

kas tas "crash'as" gal gali kas paaiskint?

Crashas yra kai per treniruote "skraidai", pilnas jegu ir t.t. o po treniruotes po kurio laiko apima stiprus silpnums, norisi miego jautiesi ziauriai pavarges

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#1702 2012-09-02 16:38

Re: Azoto oksido (NO) skatintojai ir energetikai

aisku, vakar kazka panasaus pirma karta patyriau, pries tai nieko tokio nebuvo, manau del to kad labai nejautrus esu energetikam, bet po mazdaug puse valandos - valandos vel jauciaus pilnas jegu, labai keistai viskas, taip ir likau nesuprates iki galo kas cia buvo. gali but susije kazin ar cia kazkas kito?

Paskutinį kartą taisė Jokotau (2012-09-02 16:38)

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#1703 2012-09-02 16:40

Re: Azoto oksido (NO) skatintojai ir energetikai

Jokotau rašė:

aisku, vakar kazka panasaus pirma karta patyriau, pries tai nieko tokio nebuvo, manau del to kad labai nejautrus esu energetikam, bet po mazdaug puse valandos - valandos vel jauciaus pilnas jegu, labai keistai viskas, taip ir likau nesuprates iki galo kas cia buvo. gali but susije kazin ar cia kazkas kito?

Jeigu vartojai koki nors pre-workout tai zinoma kad gali buti susije

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#1704 2012-09-02 17:16

Re: Azoto oksido (NO) skatintojai ir energetikai

vartojau, del to ir rasau preworkoutu temoj, bet vartoju juos jau nebe pirma diena ar savaite ir ne viena jau esu isbandes, net ta kuri vartojau vakar vartojau ir seniau, bet nieko panasaus nebuvo, del to ir likau nesuprates.

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#1705 2012-09-05 11:15

Re: Azoto oksido (NO) skatintojai ir energetikai

Gerai kad cia uzskaiciau nes galvojau eiti pas daktarus pasitirti... vakar po treniruotes galvojau mirstu kai jegas ateme:) parsivedziau megstamiausia pana galvojau sita tikrai  pralinksmins:))) pramiegojau koki 10 valandu ( iprasta 7) bet siandien jau normaliai.

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#1706 2012-09-05 17:33

Re: Azoto oksido (NO) skatintojai ir energetikai

sveiki kokie atsiliepimai apie NANO X9.(azoto skatintojas)

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#1707 2012-09-05 23:27

Re: Azoto oksido (NO) skatintojai ir energetikai

Most popular sports supplement banned in Britain over fears it may have lethal side-effects

Jack3d is mainly bought over the internet although it has been available in some sports stores
It contains a stimulant called DMAA that could have lethal side-effects

By Daily Mail Reporter

PUBLISHED:13:26, 28 August 2012| UPDATED:09:16, 29 August 2012

Banned: Jack3d contains a stimulant called DMAA

A sports supplement popular with fitness fanatics has been banned in Britain because of fears it may have lethal side-effects.

The drink Jack3D contains a stimulant known as DMAA (dimethylamylamine) that has been linked to high blood pressure, headaches, vomiting, stroke and even a death.

The UK’s medicines watchdog MHRA (Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency) has ruled it is unlicensed and all other DMAA containing products need to be removed from the market to protect public safety.

The decision follows similar warnings around the world, including in the US and Australia where a man died after buying DMAA online.

Jack3d is said to boost energy, concentration and metabolism. But DMAA, most commonly used as a workout aid or dietary supplement, can have a physiological effect on the body by narrowing the arteries and raising the heart rate, said the MHRA.

This has been linked to suspected adverse drug reactions worldwide, ranging from shortness of breath to heart attacks.

An MHRA spokesperson said: 'Jack3d is mainly bought over the internet although it is also available in sports stores specialising in work out products.

'If we find a shop selling it we will send them a written reminder asking them to remove it from their shelves. If they ignore this then our enforcement officers will move in and begin legal action.

It is the most popular sports supplement in the UK because it is a stimulant that allows you to work out for longer.

'But it is for people who are really into their fitness. Your average person who goes to the gym once or twice a week is unlikely to have ever used it.'

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The MHRA has already issued eight urgent notices instructing retailers to remove the product and any other DMAA containing products from sale.

The MHRA has recently taken action against a number of products presented as sports supplements that fall within the definition of a medicinal product because of the potent herbal ingredients they contained.

The chemical ingredient DMAA is also on the prohibited list of banned substances by the World Anti-Doping Agency and has been responsible for 137 doping violations worldwide.

Jack3d is the most popular sports supplement in the UK because it is a stimulant that allows you to work out for longer

David Carter, manager of the MHRA’s Medicines Borderline Section, said: 'People need to be aware when choosing their sports supplements. These products may claim to increase performance but contain powerful ingredients which can have serious side effects.

'We recommend people only use approved products and speak to a qualified medical practitioner if they have any concerns about any supplements they may be taking.'

Relevant companies are advised to remove Jack3D from sale and to take similar action for other products containing DMAA, which is also known by many names including Methylhexanamine, Geranamine, Geranium oil and ‘Cranesbill’.

Graham Arthur, director of Legal at UK anti-doping, added: 'This is a significant step forward for all competitive athletes as methylhexaneamine (DMAA) is a banned substance ‘in-competition’ that frequently appears in over the counter and internet bought products but not clearly on the label.

'Athletes who use sports supplements need to choose reputable manufacturers who can justify their claims with scientific evidence, and have their products screened to minimise the risk of testing positive for a substance on the World Anti-Doping Agency’s Prohibited List.

UK Anti-Doping continues to work closely with the MHRA to protect the health of athletes and to prevent doping in sport.'


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/artic … z25d2fmfR4

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#1708 2012-09-06 00:03

Re: Azoto oksido (NO) skatintojai ir energetikai

sharchan12 rašė:

Most popular sports supplement banned in Britain over fears it may have lethal side-effects

Jack3d is mainly bought over the internet although it has been available in some sports stores
It contains a stimulant called DMAA that could have lethal side-effects

By Daily Mail Reporter

PUBLISHED:13:26, 28 August 2012| UPDATED:09:16, 29 August 2012

Banned: Jack3d contains a stimulant called DMAA

A sports supplement popular with fitness fanatics has been banned in Britain because of fears it may have lethal side-effects.

The drink Jack3D contains a stimulant known as DMAA (dimethylamylamine) that has been linked to high blood pressure, headaches, vomiting, stroke and even a death.

The UK’s medicines watchdog MHRA (Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency) has ruled it is unlicensed and all other DMAA containing products need to be removed from the market to protect public safety.

The decision follows similar warnings around the world, including in the US and Australia where a man died after buying DMAA online.

Jack3d is said to boost energy, concentration and metabolism. But DMAA, most commonly used as a workout aid or dietary supplement, can have a physiological effect on the body by narrowing the arteries and raising the heart rate, said the MHRA.

This has been linked to suspected adverse drug reactions worldwide, ranging from shortness of breath to heart attacks.

An MHRA spokesperson said: 'Jack3d is mainly bought over the internet although it is also available in sports stores specialising in work out products.

'If we find a shop selling it we will send them a written reminder asking them to remove it from their shelves. If they ignore this then our enforcement officers will move in and begin legal action.

It is the most popular sports supplement in the UK because it is a stimulant that allows you to work out for longer.

'But it is for people who are really into their fitness. Your average person who goes to the gym once or twice a week is unlikely to have ever used it.'

More...
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The MHRA has already issued eight urgent notices instructing retailers to remove the product and any other DMAA containing products from sale.

The MHRA has recently taken action against a number of products presented as sports supplements that fall within the definition of a medicinal product because of the potent herbal ingredients they contained.

The chemical ingredient DMAA is also on the prohibited list of banned substances by the World Anti-Doping Agency and has been responsible for 137 doping violations worldwide.

Jack3d is the most popular sports supplement in the UK because it is a stimulant that allows you to work out for longer

David Carter, manager of the MHRA’s Medicines Borderline Section, said: 'People need to be aware when choosing their sports supplements. These products may claim to increase performance but contain powerful ingredients which can have serious side effects.

'We recommend people only use approved products and speak to a qualified medical practitioner if they have any concerns about any supplements they may be taking.'

Relevant companies are advised to remove Jack3D from sale and to take similar action for other products containing DMAA, which is also known by many names including Methylhexanamine, Geranamine, Geranium oil and ‘Cranesbill’.

Graham Arthur, director of Legal at UK anti-doping, added: 'This is a significant step forward for all competitive athletes as methylhexaneamine (DMAA) is a banned substance ‘in-competition’ that frequently appears in over the counter and internet bought products but not clearly on the label.

'Athletes who use sports supplements need to choose reputable manufacturers who can justify their claims with scientific evidence, and have their products screened to minimise the risk of testing positive for a substance on the World Anti-Doping Agency’s Prohibited List.

UK Anti-Doping continues to work closely with the MHRA to protect the health of athletes and to prevent doping in sport.'


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/artic … z25d2fmfR4

Bullshit. DMAA truputi alina organizma ir jo reiktu vartot kuo maziau, bet nuo jo nenumirsi protingai vartojant. Aisku buna kosmonautu kur kala 8 scoopus jack3d ir vos neuzsivercia bet cia jau ju bedos. Visi tie straipsniai nieko verti.

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#1709 2012-09-06 07:36

Re: Azoto oksido (NO) skatintojai ir energetikai

Knoxville rašė:

Bullshit. DMAA truputi alina organizma ir jo reiktu vartot kuo maziau, bet nuo jo nenumirsi protingai vartojant. Aisku buna kosmonautu kur kala 8 scoopus jack3d ir vos neuzsivercia bet cia jau ju bedos. Visi tie straipsniai nieko verti.

Nu, nuo efedros, nuo kokso ir t.t.. nenumirsi irgi protingai vartojant. Ar cia ju bedos jei linksta? Pagauni? smile

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#1710 2012-09-06 11:35

Re: Azoto oksido (NO) skatintojai ir energetikai

Labai gerai kad idejai sita straipni ! sakau ko man per treniruotes ir po ju pastoviai oro truksta, o dar tas crashas pries kelias dienas. Eina banke sito velnio  tiesiai i siuksline , o siuksline padegu smile)

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#1711 2012-09-06 14:30

Re: Azoto oksido (NO) skatintojai ir energetikai

olegaskimanas rašė:

Knoxville rašė:

Bullshit. DMAA truputi alina organizma ir jo reiktu vartot kuo maziau, bet nuo jo nenumirsi protingai vartojant. Aisku buna kosmonautu kur kala 8 scoopus jack3d ir vos neuzsivercia bet cia jau ju bedos. Visi tie straipsniai nieko verti.

Nu, nuo efedros, nuo kokso ir t.t.. nenumirsi irgi protingai vartojant. Ar cia ju bedos jei linksta? Pagauni? smile

Esme tame kad vartojant po 1 scoop kaip ir liepia gamintojas, viskas ok, problemos prasideda tik kai uzsimano zmones pabut kosmonautais ir pradeda 3-4 scoopus ryt. Na aisku galima daug diskutuot apie tai bet mano nuomone kad retkarciais (ne kiekviena treniruote) nieko blogo sita dalyka vartot, zinoma reikia turet proto nes teoriskai galima visko perdozuoti.

Paskutinį kartą taisė Knoxville (2012-09-06 14:30)

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#1712 2012-09-06 15:17

Re: Azoto oksido (NO) skatintojai ir energetikai

sveiki zadu pirkt "plasm pump"  http://www.produktaisportui.lt/Big-Zone … lasma-Pump  parasyta gert pries treniruote , lieka klausimas ka daryt ne treniruociu dienom, gert ji ar negert, iprastai tokio tipo papildai kasdiena geriasi bet iprastai ant ju ir raso kas diena gert.

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#1713 2012-09-06 15:29

Re: Azoto oksido (NO) skatintojai ir energetikai

gerk pusvalandi pries treniruote, kitu metu nereikia.

beja, sita dalyka pats gali lengvai susikomplektuoti is grynu papildu: AAKG + CM + kreatinas + beta-alaninas + kofeino tabletes. pigiau kainuos

Paskutinį kartą taisė emexas (2012-09-06 15:29)

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#1714 2012-09-06 15:35

Re: Azoto oksido (NO) skatintojai ir energetikai

doctor rašė:

Labai gerai kad idejai sita straipni ! sakau ko man per treniruotes ir po ju pastoviai oro truksta, o dar tas crashas pries kelias dienas. Eina banke sito velnio  tiesiai i siuksline , o siuksline padegu smile)

nedurniuok, labdarai atiduok smile

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#1715 2012-09-06 15:39

Re: Azoto oksido (NO) skatintojai ir energetikai

Knoxville rašė:

olegaskimanas rašė:

Knoxville rašė:

Bullshit. DMAA truputi alina organizma ir jo reiktu vartot kuo maziau, bet nuo jo nenumirsi protingai vartojant. Aisku buna kosmonautu kur kala 8 scoopus jack3d ir vos neuzsivercia bet cia jau ju bedos. Visi tie straipsniai nieko verti.

Nu, nuo efedros, nuo kokso ir t.t.. nenumirsi irgi protingai vartojant. Ar cia ju bedos jei linksta? Pagauni? smile

Esme tame kad vartojant po 1 scoop kaip ir liepia gamintojas, viskas ok, problemos prasideda tik kai uzsimano zmones pabut kosmonautais ir pradeda 3-4 scoopus ryt. Na aisku galima daug diskutuot apie tai bet mano nuomone kad retkarciais (ne kiekviena treniruote) nieko blogo sita dalyka vartot, zinoma reikia turet proto nes teoriskai galima visko perdozuoti.

Galetum nusiust tokius rimtus argumentus tiems, kas vertina ivairiu medziagu poveiki ir kuriems deda banus. smile

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#1716 2012-09-06 15:47

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uzsivedes rašė:

doctor rašė:

Labai gerai kad idejai sita straipni ! sakau ko man per treniruotes ir po ju pastoviai oro truksta, o dar tas crashas pries kelias dienas. Eina banke sito velnio  tiesiai i siuksline , o siuksline padegu smile)

nedurniuok, labdarai atiduok smile

Heh jau ismeciau... MP assault uzsakiau. Ten liktai nera to 1.3 dyhibelenko smile

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#1717 2012-09-06 16:52

Re: Azoto oksido (NO) skatintojai ir energetikai

lengva ranka metai - salej butu kas nors paemes tikrai smile paimt ir rubinej pastatyt, community PWO toks, kas nori, tas uzsimeta - greitai sueitu smile

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#1718 2012-09-06 22:04

Re: Azoto oksido (NO) skatintojai ir energetikai

as manau naudoti kofeina butu protingiau ir tai nepastoviai

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#1719 2012-09-07 00:41

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emexas rašė:

gerk pusvalandi pries treniruote, kitu metu nereikia.

beja, sita dalyka pats gali lengvai susikomplektuoti is grynu papildu: AAKG + CM + kreatinas + beta-alaninas + kofeino tabletes. pigiau kainuos

Nu tikiu kad galima bet kiek pigiau tai neaisku. Idomu koks bus efektas, as pries tai no explode vartojau, gal metus laiko, aisku pertraukas darydamas. Bet paskaiciau kad labai visi cia ant explodo varo jog realaus pumpo ten nera tik energetikas, taj nusprendziau pabandyt kaip tas atrodyt turetu tikras pumpas smile

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#1720 2012-09-07 12:18

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uzsivedes rašė:

lengva ranka metai - salej butu kas nors paemes tikrai smile paimt ir rubinej pastatyt, community PWO toks, kas nori, tas uzsimeta - greitai sueitu smile

as UK. tai likciau nesuprastas, galvotu siuksles ir ismestu... O ir gymas brangiausias apylinkese  tai nera super kacioku , gal kokie 3 pacanai per visus kur 100kg ant stangos issteni...

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#1721 2012-09-07 13:15

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Aisku, LT tai greitai sunesiotu smile

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#1722 2012-09-10 17:00

Re: Azoto oksido (NO) skatintojai ir energetikai

kuo ilgiau galvoju tuo labiau atrodo kad is tu visu energetiku daugiau zalos nei naudos "long run'e" butu. yra pritarianciu - priestaraujanciu? ne NO preworkoutus is esmes bet konkreciai energetikus turiu galvoj.

Paskutinį kartą taisė Jokotau (2012-09-10 19:59)

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#1723 2012-09-12 10:09

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Turiu klausimas del NO skatintoju. Kuri patartumet vartoti jei neturiu laiko suvirskinti maisto nes einu sportuoti ryte 0.30-1.00 val po valgio ir kaip pavyzdziui NO-explode vartojamas 2 val po valgio ant tuscio skrandzio 30min pries sporta, as tokio prabangos neturiu kas sieja gal yra kokiu neblogu produktu kurie nereikalauja buti vartojami ant tuscio ar lb apytuscio skrandzio?  Ar seip koks patarimas butu mano situacijoje?

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#1724 2012-09-12 10:31

Re: Azoto oksido (NO) skatintojai ir energetikai

Tai, kad reikia ant tuscio skrandzio gert. Seip tai aakg ir cm.

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#1725 2012-09-12 12:50

Re: Azoto oksido (NO) skatintojai ir energetikai

Pierre rašė:

Turiu klausimas del NO skatintoju. Kuri patartumet vartoti jei neturiu laiko suvirskinti maisto nes einu sportuoti ryte 0.30-1.00 val po valgio ir kaip pavyzdziui NO-explode vartojamas 2 val po valgio ant tuscio skrandzio 30min pries sporta, as tokio prabangos neturiu kas sieja gal yra kokiu neblogu produktu kurie nereikalauja buti vartojami ant tuscio ar lb apytuscio skrandzio?  Ar seip koks patarimas butu mano situacijoje?

kalk pries trenke bananus, apelsinus + whey proteina

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