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#701 2013-10-02 08:53

Re: Mr.Olympia 2013

Ok staffai TARKIM jie ta pati varo ir dabar. kodel tada ant tiek kukareku atrodo? nors jeigu tau rammy leskos gerai atrodo tai aisku kad arba as nieko nebematau arba tu big_smile

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#702 2013-10-02 08:59

Re: Mr.Olympia 2013

ka turi omeny? blogai atrodo dabar? per varzybas olimpijoj ant scenos jie gerai atrode pagal mane, bent jau dauguma. ramy kojos nera labai gilios,cutlerio daug gilesnes atrodo, bet pagal proporcijas ramy kojos nesveikai atrodo dideles

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#703 2013-10-02 09:09

Re: Mr.Olympia 2013

Gal pozoj is sono ir norm jos atrodo. bet visose kitose ten tragedija. plius neimanoma neziuret kazkaip i visuma, o visuma ten irgi tragedija.. matosi kad zmogus nenaturaliai nuauges TURIU OMENY KAD PRIPUSTA KAZKO i tam tikras vietas, o ne kad jis himina, kai kiti proteina BSN geria.

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos- … 5870_n.jpg tarkim cia kojos. kazkokia didele mesa ir tiek. philo jau kitas reikalas.

ar cia ? https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/ … 9007_n.jpg

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#704 2013-10-02 09:12

Re: Mr.Olympia 2013

nu sintolis ar kazkoks sudas big_smile bet atrodo nesveikei dideles wink

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#705 2013-10-02 09:15

Re: Mr.Olympia 2013

paziurek rich piana filmukus, irgi visas toks ryskus, venos islindurios visur, bet visai be formos, visiskai nera gylio ir atskyrimo tarp raumenu

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#706 2013-10-02 09:16

Re: Mr.Olympia 2013

Dideles bet ar to reikia kai esi PRO ? tik dydzio neuztenka jo vieta ta parode...

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#707 2013-10-02 09:19

Re: Mr.Olympia 2013

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paziurek rich piana filmukus, irgi visas toks ryskus, venos islindurios visur, bet visai be formos, visiskai nera gylio ir atskyrimo tarp raumenu

Maciau as tokiu veikeju net nenoriu ziuret. jei varai chemija ta jau "normalia" testa, visa kita. utiutiu reikia tu visu alieju prisileist... tik issidarko save ir tiek. cia antro lygio turbut gigantizmas, ar kas...

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#708 2013-10-02 09:47

Re: Mr.Olympia 2013

I have recently been getting reports that bodybuilders are using two new products to enhance and build muscle mass locally through site injection. The drugs Artecoll and Silikon 1000 come from the world of dermatology, but bodybuilders are using them for site enhancement to great effect. Both drugs are new and neither have been approved by the FDA. Dermatologists are using them as replacements for collagen injections. Injected subcutaneously, they smooth wrinkles and give the appearance of smoother skin. But unlike collagen which lasts only three months or so, both Artecoll and Silikon are permanent. In the reports that I have received, bodybuilders are using these drugs to build phenomenal biceps, calves, and to shore up other lagging body parts by injecting these substances deep into the belly of the muscle itself where it can make the muscle dramatically bigger. This has inspired me re-evaluate my approach and to create the absolute best site enhancement oil on the planet.

Bodybuilders are using these drugs in the same way that they used the site injection oils in the past. In case you're not familiar with using site injection oil to build muscle, here's a quick history...
I (Chris Clark) was the inventor of the original site injection oil, that he marketed under the name Synthol -- it also went by the names Synthrol 877 and Synthrol 873. I was a steroid dealer who became obsessed with the idea of developing a product that could make muscle bigger by expanding it locally with oil. One version of my original Synthol contained anabolic steroids, but others just contained a low grade mixture of oils. They had my concept, but not my ingredients.

I injected myself repeatedly with a variety of different oils in the very beginning. Legend has it that I injected so much oil that he almost died on several occasions from pulmonary embolisms (not completely true...I am not an idiot LOL). I did almost lost one of my legs just below the knee due to a horrible infection,but it turns out this was not due to my product,but some testing I was doing for another "anonymous" individual. But, this did not stop me at all. I was obsessed with perfection.

All the pros and top amateurs began using Synthol and other site enhancement oils. The lucky ones had avoided abscesses (because they would only use my product). Some had good results whereas the cheaper knockoffs & imitations of my synthrol products made others looked like they had small balloons of oil sitting on top of their muscles. Those that had better results usually had gone deeper into the muscle tissue using longer 1.5 inch needles. Going deep into the muscle fiber, they had lifted and spread the muscle from underneath instead of forming a swimming pool of oil on top of the muscle tissue. My product was so thin that the muscle expansion looked so natural, it was near perfect.

With the new drugs Artecoll and Silikon 1000, bodybuilders are hoping to achieve better site specific results and at the same time avoid the sterility issues that came with the bathtub-made site enhancement oils. Here's some information about Artecoll and Silikon 1000.
Artecoll, believe it or not, is actually an injectable implant. Typically it is used for skin augmentation, but bodybuilders are experimenting with it for site enhancement through intramuscular injection. It should be noted that it is not approved for either type of use.

Artecoll is composed of tiny beads called polymethyl methacrylate (PMMA) which are suspended in a collagen solution. The manufacturer added lidocaine for the relief of post treatment soreness. The sterility of this product and the lidocaine are already a big improvement over the older oils that often made bodybuilders so sore that they could not train for a week after an injection.
 
The PMMA beads are 32-40 µm in size which is about 4 to 5 times the size of a red blood cell. PMMA has been used since the early 1930's in such common procedures as dental work, eye lenses, bone repair, orthopedics and in pacemakers. These beads are well tolerated by human tissue (no rejection).
Artecoll utilizes the body's natural ability to encapsulate foreign bodies by the formation of connective tissue surrounding the PMMA beads. The process of encapsulation of the beads by the body's own connective tissue (collagen) is complete in about 3 months. Absorption and dislocation of the beads is prevented by the encapsulation of each individual bead with connective tissue. Localized growth reportedly takes place over several months as the body forms its own connective tissue around the beads.

Normally a topical anesthetic such as lidocaine or prilocaine is put on the area to be treated one hour prior to the procedure. When used dermatologically, a series of tiny injections are made under the skin's surface -- bodybuilders are reportedly going deeper and with larger injections. Artecoll has an excellent safety record with less than 0.1% incidence of side effects (mainly allergy and inflammation).

The results are considered permanent; there is no need to continually retreat as with some other procedures. The implant will remain for the rest of the person's life. Possible side effects include swelling, redness, slight bruising and moderate pain after injection. Slight itching at the implantation site is a rather common symptom. These symptoms normally subside in a few days. Since the use of this drug is so new, some doctors speculate that the beads could potentially migrate and form clumps that would have to be removed -- although at present this is just speculation.

Just as controversial as Artecoll, Silikon 1000 is a medical-grade liquid silicone that bodybuilders have begun to experiment with for site enhancement.
The injection of liquid silicone into breast tissue was used in the 1950s and 1960s as a breast augmentation procedure. Owing to side effects such as the formation of hard masses in the breast (silicone granulomas) and possible other side effects, the technique was abandoned. And in 1992, concerns about leaks from the silicone in breast implants resulted in a ban on all cosmetic uses of the substance.
 
Having been banned for a decade, liquid silicone injection is making a quiet comeback. Some dermatologists are now once again offering the new medical grade silicone, Silikon 1000, as a wrinkle smoother to patients wanting to avoid a face lift. And some bodybuilders are also experimenting with it for site enhancement.
Silikon 1000 is a silicone preparation that was approved in 1997 to treat detached retinas. Using it for wrinkles or site enhancement is off label use by physicians.

What makes Silikon 1000 of such interest to dermatologists and bodybuilders alike is also what causes such concern; namely, liquid silicone is permanent. Silicone makes an attractive filler because of its longevity -- once injected, it cannot be removed. Silikon 1000 has recently been approved for testing on facial wrinkles, depressions, and AIDS related facial wasting.

For some, the problems that plagued silicone in the past can be attributed to improper technique or using an adulterated or impure formulation. Even today, in the transgender community, there are still deaths reported not infrequently from "silicone parties" where non-medical grade silicone is injected to enhance the buttocks and breasts. And there are a lot of side effects that you can get from it if it is used incorrectly. Adulterated forms can give you granulomas, which are bumps in the skin. And if silicone is used in too great a volume it can result in migration.

That said, bodybuilders have always and are still experimenting with silicone. (Rumor has it that Arnold used it in his calves decades ago. With the advent of a safer silicone, Silikon 1000, or a stack of Silikon 1000 and Artecol together, we are entering an age of injectable bodybuilding never before seen.
Although it is certainly not recommended that site injection be tried given the experimental nature of these drugs, we hope you'll visit the discussion boards to discuss site enhancement with Artecoll and Silikon 1000.
Me and and my Team of "Chemists" have created a new product expected to hit the USA July 4th 2011.

This is exciting for  me since I am ready for all my hard work to pay off. So with all the different Synthol site enhancement out there, you are probably asking yourself  "what will make Chris Clark's new synthol so special"? That is a valid question, so allow me to answer. #1, Let's not forget I have a good 17 year head start on the study of site enhancement oil. I invented the first "Synthol" and my research began even years before that.I read all reviews, the good and the bad, the advantages and disadvantages and I create my product around that feedback.

Here is a quick answer as to why my newest creation will be superior:Pain Free: the product is completely PH balanced and contains a mild anesthetic.The application will be almost completely pain free. Secondly: "controlled swelling & growth". Nobody wants painful-irritable swelling.The goal is to create natural growth in a controlled manner. My new synthrol will create true muscle growth. The new solution is thinnner and allows for maximum uptake throughout the entire muscle.

The advantage to a thinner solution is that the oil will spread through out the entire muscle much easier,thus avoiding that "lumpy appearnace". My newest formula creates the most superior appearance when compared to products of the past....and the best part....hold on to your chairs....it creates a true increase in muscle mass and strength!!.  So finally we have a site enhancemnt product that will not only truly expand muscle mass but even enhance strength.
Keep your eyes opened for the new "Synthrol 877" Anabolic Formula.

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#709 2013-10-02 10:05

Re: Mr.Olympia 2013

cia labai sena istrauka:


AE: How extensive do you think use of site enhancement oil (SEO) is in the pro ranks? I know there are some pretty obvious abusers, but I also know there's a lot of pros that use the stuff who never have the finger pointed at them. Without naming names, how bad do you think it's gotten?

Trevor: Well first we need to make a distinction here. Site Enhancement Oil is the name of my product, not the general name for all these other "Pump and Pose" products. I don’t want people getting confused or confusing the other garbage out there with my product. So how extensive do I think these types of products are in the pro ranks? Very!

It would be easier for me to name the people who don’t use these types of products, then to name the ones that do. And this "without naming names" . Let’s name some of the ones that do use.

Flex Wheeler: Probably the biggest user out there. Except Flex has someone applying the shots (a plastic surgeon I heard) that knows what they are doing, because he still looks good. Although if you look at pics of him from 1992 to now, he has completely lost the deltoid/arm tie ins which he used to have. The use of site injections has made his arms a good 2-3 inches bigger and cost him some definition. Now his delts he has gone over board in my opinion, as they are actually bigger than his pecs. Of course, his calves were probably the first thing he did. They don’t look good because they just do not flex and they have no definition.

Ronnie Coleman: uses it strictly in his calves because he has very high calves like a number of the black athletes

Marcus Ruhl: you can usually see the bruises on his biceps from the injection….his look good and he has a wicked peak.

Nasser: again you can see where he applies it in his arms

J.P. Fux: in the battle for the Olympia tape, you clearly see the telltale biceps bruise from where he injects.

Dexter Jackson: uses a lot in his calves

I could go on and on. A lot of the black athletes use it in their calves to over-come their genetically high calves, and most of the pros will use it to fill out the shoulders. Like I said, it would be easier to name guys that don’t use the stuff: Shawn Ray, Lee Priest, Kevin Levrone….

At the end of the day, the guys who understand how to do the injections correctly will not get noticed. The guys who go ape with the stuff and don’t know how to use it correctly, they are going to stand out. The smart ones will use smaller amounts over the long haul so it won’t be such a dramatic difference from the last time they competed. I mean if you do the N.O.C. and have weak biceps and then show up at the Olympia with huge footballs, it is going to raise some eyelids.



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#710 2013-10-02 10:15

Re: Mr.Olympia 2013

Staffordshire rašė:

cia labai sena istrauka:


AE: How extensive do you think use of site enhancement oil (SEO) is in the pro ranks? I know there are some pretty obvious abusers, but I also know there's a lot of pros that use the stuff who never have the finger pointed at them. Without naming names, how bad do you think it's gotten?

Trevor: Well first we need to make a distinction here. Site Enhancement Oil is the name of my product, not the general name for all these other "Pump and Pose" products. I don’t want people getting confused or confusing the other garbage out there with my product. So how extensive do I think these types of products are in the pro ranks? Very!

It would be easier for me to name the people who don’t use these types of products, then to name the ones that do. And this "without naming names" . Let’s name some of the ones that do use.

Flex Wheeler: Probably the biggest user out there. Except Flex has someone applying the shots (a plastic surgeon I heard) that knows what they are doing, because he still looks good. Although if you look at pics of him from 1992 to now, he has completely lost the deltoid/arm tie ins which he used to have. The use of site injections has made his arms a good 2-3 inches bigger and cost him some definition. Now his delts he has gone over board in my opinion, as they are actually bigger than his pecs. Of course, his calves were probably the first thing he did. They don’t look good because they just do not flex and they have no definition.

Ronnie Coleman: uses it strictly in his calves because he has very high calves like a number of the black athletes

Marcus Ruhl: you can usually see the bruises on his biceps from the injection….his look good and he has a wicked peak.

Nasser: again you can see where he applies it in his arms

J.P. Fux: in the battle for the Olympia tape, you clearly see the telltale biceps bruise from where he injects.

Dexter Jackson: uses a lot in his calves

I could go on and on. A lot of the black athletes use it in their calves to over-come their genetically high calves, and most of the pros will use it to fill out the shoulders. Like I said, it would be easier to name guys that don’t use the stuff: Shawn Ray, Lee Priest, Kevin Levrone….

At the end of the day, the guys who understand how to do the injections correctly will not get noticed. The guys who go ape with the stuff and don’t know how to use it correctly, they are going to stand out. The smart ones will use smaller amounts over the long haul so it won’t be such a dramatic difference from the last time they competed. I mean if you do the N.O.C. and have weak biceps and then show up at the Olympia with huge footballs, it is going to raise some eyelids.



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#711 2013-10-02 10:50

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Nice info

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#712 2013-10-02 11:00

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Gal galit siu metu nasser fotke pamatyt kaip jis prigrybaves kaip cia sako?

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#713 2013-10-02 12:10

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taigi mires....

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#714 2013-10-02 12:15

Re: Mr.Olympia 2013

Ai cia tas hmm tam forume komentaruose rase, kad pries pora dienu mate ji ir atrode prastai ir uzsiparinau utiutiu. Bauda.

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#715 2013-10-02 12:40

Re: Mr.Olympia 2013

Loading rašė:

nu taigi ir sake tam interviu, cia buvo idetas, kad visi varo kazkoki nauja prepa, bet zurnalistas cenzuravo viska. kas kam neaisku utiutiu

cia jauciu koks nors metinis metanas

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#716 2013-10-02 13:25

Re: Mr.Olympia 2013

Mldc Staf, idomus straipsniai. Ziauru siuolaikinis kulturizmas smile

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#717 2013-10-02 13:53

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ten tie straipsniai 2000 metu big_smile nu bet ta silikona ir varo dabar su kazkuo sumaisyta. tik per laika ismoksta graziau susileisti kad po to graziau atrodytu ir pan, gylio pas daugeli siuolaikiniu kulturistu labai truksta

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#718 2013-10-02 13:57

Re: Mr.Olympia 2013

man geriau jau tokie ne pro, be kazkokiu neaiskiu burbulu
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-TlrwheT3y1c/UHeHkr2fAoI/AAAAAAAAkPs/702br_KtHPU/s1600/71.jpghttp://3.bp.blogspot.com/-0E4rbCxFCa8/UHeHmicqrqI/AAAAAAAAkP0/Rq-eyGePbrw/s1600/47.jpg

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#719 2013-10-02 14:17

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man geriau jau tokie ne pro, be kazkokiu neaiskiu burbulu
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-TlrwheT3y1c/U … 600/71.jpghttp://3.bp.blogspot.com/-0E4rbCxFCa8/U … 600/47.jpg

pritariu

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#720 2013-10-02 14:25

Re: Mr.Olympia 2013

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#721 2013-10-02 14:25

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Daug suvyniot reikes big_smile

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#722 2013-10-02 14:29

Re: Mr.Olympia 2013

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#723 2013-10-02 14:46

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Artyi rašė:

Nemazai... big_smile

Tas pirmoje foto, tai 94kg ant 184, tai man mazdaug reiktu  kokiu 88kg ant savo ugio pradziai.. big_smile
Antroje ant 189 104... tai iki 90 paaugus, butu pats tas big_smile

Na ka TRT padidint ir sest ant 3-4 kursu smile

Ir nepamirsk palaikymo poto smile amzinai didelis be steru nebusi smile)

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#724 2013-10-02 14:53

Re: Mr.Olympia 2013

tas ir yra, viskas stovi ant hormonu, nori buti didesnis turi sedeti ant doziu ir isvien, nebus hormonu -susitrauksi. beja tos foto ten ir patvarkytos ir manau visi kulturistai varo sintoli ar silikona

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#725 2013-10-02 14:58

Re: Mr.Olympia 2013

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