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#1 2006-11-07 00:12
Jauniausias Mr. America - Casey Viator ir 1973m Kolorado eksperimentas
Tai va norėjau pasidalinti viename Ironman numeryje publikuota informacija apie neeilinį eksperimentą, per kurį kultūristui Casey Viator per mėnesį pavyko priaugti 29kg raumenų, tuo pačiu numetant 8kg riebalų...
Nuotraukos prieš eksperimentą ir po jo:
Ištraukos iš 2003m #4 ( 27 ) Ironman magazine vertimas:
,,... Kolorado eksperimentas buvo pravestas 1973m. gegužės mėnesį. Jis tęsėsi keturias savaites ir per tą laikotarpį Casey turėjo keturiolika treniruočių. Tuomet Viator priaugo 29kg raumenų, tuo pačiu numesdamas 8kg riebalų. Jis pradėjo sverdamas 76kg ( su 14 % poodinių riebalų ). Po 27 dienų, jis svėrė 97kg ( su 2,5 % poodinių riebalų )! Vidutinis raumens augimas sudarė 2kg per treniruotę!! Gegužės mėnesio pabaigoje Casey turbūt buvo geriausios formos per visą savo gyvenimą. Net turint omenyje tą faktą, jog eksperimente jo pradinis svoris buvo sumažėjęs, dėl to, jog jis neteko piršto ir šios traumos pasekoje dėl kraujo užkrėtimo gavęs sunkią alerginę reakciją, keturis mėnesius gyveno be treniruočių ir ne itin kaloringai maitinosi. Vis dėlto C. Viatoro progresas eksperimento metu buvo toks stulbinantis, kad peržengė visas prognozių ribas. Juk niekas nesitikėjo tokio greito masės augimo. Daugelis iš besitreniruojančiųjų būtų laimingi padidinę savo masę 29kg per visą savo gyvenimą... Casey eksperimento metu treniravosi pagal Arthur Jones treniruočių metodiką, jo išrastuose treniruokliuose Nautilus. Viso eksperimento metu A. Jones sekė, jog Viator eksperimento metu laikytųsi daugiakalorijinės dietos - visko tiesiog buvo daug: ir baltymų, ir angliavandenių, ir riebalų..."
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#2 2006-11-07 00:25
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Šiaip dar truputis faktų apie Casey Viator:
Gimimo metai: Rugsėjo 4, 1951
Gimimo vieta: Lafayette, Los Angeles
Ūgis: 178cm
Svoris: 240 lbs
Ranka: 56cm
Krūtinė: 147cm
Liemuo: 81cm
Titulai:
1970 AAU Teen Mr. America
1970 AAU Teen Mr. America (Most Muscular)
1970 AAU Mr. USA
1971 AAU Mr. USA
1971 AAU Jr. Mr. America
1971 AAU Jr. Mr. America
1971 AAU Mr. America
1971 AAU Mr. America
1980 IFFB Lousiana Grand Prix
1980 IFFB Pennsylvania Gran Prix
1980 Pittsburgh Pro Invitational
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#3 2006-11-07 10:29
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#4 2006-11-07 11:35
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Gal placiau galetum parasyt kaip jis ten treniravosi ir kaip maitinosi. siaip tai sunku patiket kad imanoma taip greit priaugti tiek daug mases.
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#5 2006-11-07 14:37
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as ir noreciau bent puse tiek priaugti per menesi
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#6 2006-11-07 17:41
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Šiaip tikrai būčiau parašęs visą info apie šį eksperimentą, bet ten pateikta tik tiek medžiagos... Ten info apie eksperimentą buvo tik vieno didelio straipsnio apie Superintensyvų treniravimąsį dalis. Šiaip ir mane labai sudomino ši tema, todėl ir nutariau pasidalinti rasta informacija...
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#7 2006-11-07 17:52
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Jei ka daugiau rasi parasyk ir man idomu koks cia eksperimentas, o kodel daugiau nieks nebande taip treniruotis juk rezultatai tai nerelus, gal cia paslapty viskas laikoma.
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#8 2006-11-07 19:11
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#9 2006-11-07 19:39
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Va cia tai gers, cia sunkiai eina patiket tokiu dalyku, kad taip gali but
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#10 2006-11-08 21:11
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Perskaiciau as ta straipsnim, tai ten istikro nieko ypatingo tose treniruotese nera.
Treniruociu tikslas kuo labiau issekint raumeni, tam naudojama kaip supratau kazkos treniruoklis ypatingas, bet galima ir be jo apseit pvz krutinei padarai plėšima superserija su štangos spaudimu, tipo pirmas izoliuotas pratimas antras bazinis tam kad ta raumeni visai dabaikt kitu raumenu pagalba. Treniruotes trumpos 20-30 min. per treniruote 10 pratimu po viena serija, tai du pratimai vienai raumens grupei tada iseitu ir 3 treniruotes per savaite. Ir aisku mityba ideli.
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#11 2007-01-27 18:41
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tas pats casey viator
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#12 2007-01-27 19:01
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Geriausia ta paskutinė fotkė, blauzda ryški, kaip kokia pliauska medinė Visas toks sudėtas techniškai...
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#13 2007-01-27 19:12
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Radau internete jo darytą programą
Leg Press 750 for 20 reps
Leg Extension 225 for 20 reps
Squat 502 for 13 reps
2 minute rest
Leg Curl 175 for 12 reps
One legged calf raise w/ 40 lb in one hand 15 reps
Pullover 290 for 11 reps
Behind the neck Lat Isolation 200 for 10 reps
Row machine 200 for 10 reps
Behind the neck Lat Pulldown 210 for 10 reps
Straight armed lateral raise w/ Dumbbells 40 lbs for 9 reps
Behind the neck shoulder press 185 for 10 reps
Bicep Curl Plate loaded 110 for 8 reps
Chinup Body Weight for 12 reps
Tricep Extension 125 for 9 reps
Parallel Dip Body Weight for 22 reps
ir paaiškinimas kodėl ji mums neveiks:
1. Jis katik grįžo po traumos, kuri jam kainavo daug ramenų. Iš naujo atgaut prarastus raumenis yra lengviau nei juos augintis pradžioje.
2. Jis tuo metu "varė" steroidus.
3. Casey confessed some time after the experiment that he sneaked in a lot of extra work at local gyms in addition to the Colorado workouts.
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#14 2007-01-27 19:16
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Čia dar kažkas gan įdomu.
Chapter 14
The Colorado Experiment
By Casey Viator
There has been a lot of documentation and controversy regarding this entire operation. I would like to put my two cents worth in and tell everyone exactly how this went down for the record.
Here is my (Casey Viator) accounting:
I really had to diet hard to get my bodyweight down to 168 lbs. We calculated that my diet before the experiment was less than 800 calories per day.
I remember flying to Colorado in one of Arthur Jones airplanes, a Cherokee Six. Arthur always flew very high in the Commercial Jet Lanes in a decompressed cabin which always gave me the worst headaches. Arriving from Florida to Fort Collins,
Colorado, I had more to contend with than I had prepared myself for. I was one mile high and I had to aclimate quickly, but I knew food was coming soon. We arrived at the Lamplighter Inn, just outside of Fort Collins, where I was going
to spend the next 28 days of working hard, training and eating, no fun, maybe a movie now and then, we were there to work not play. Think about it, every day for the next month - eating, training my brains out like an animal, sleeping -
that was my job.
The next step was the weigh in. Body Fat count at Colorado State University was a very complex process. We used the Merrimac BodyFat Counter. This is one of the best Veterinarian Colleges in the World. The BodyFat Machine, or counter, was contained in a solid lead room with a huge crystal that was placed over my body. The radioactivity from my muscles registered my lean body mass.
Remember this was the 70's and this particular machine was considered State of the Art. I never questioned the accuracy, and still don't, of this equipment. This experiment actually showed me that even in my low bodyweight, I still gained weight and lost bodyfat. Eating was quite easy the first week after all my previous month and a half of dieting. With a healthy cash incentive per pound of muscle gain, I was raring to go.
The next step was to convert the Physiology Lab into a training facility. We had about 20 pieces of Nautilus equipment and prototypes to move to the second floor. There was even talk about the structural integrity of the second floor accomodating these pieces. Many tons of equipment was moved to that floor.
We had brought a new line of negative prototypes that we used for testing. For example, we moved the weight up into the contracted position for the muscle with our feet and lowered it with our biceps or triceps. We even had a negative bench
press which worked in the same fashion. There were many other types of prototypes such as the single pad Squat Machine. This piece was a real workout but in the end the mechanism that locked you out of the machine could not be perfected, hence it never ended up as a production model - all considered, this was a great machine.
The first week or so these training sessions were very difficult. I was untrained for 5 months and my hand had atrophied quite a bit. The first two
sessions I ended up on the floor with a pulse rate close to fibrillation. But, as they say, "what won't kill you will only make you stronger." I tried to keep
my fat content down during my 6-8 meals per day. During my workout sessions,
Arthur would more or less sit in a chair and read the newspaper. If he figured I
was slowing down my pace he would say something insulting and I would get mad
and push even harder into the set, which made me achieve better gains.
The only rule was keeping perfect form. This was a game he and I played for
almost 10 years off and on. One thing about the man, he sure knows how to "piss"
someone off to make them work harder through their workouts!
My workload was so intense that my body absorbed everything I ate. My muscles
were coming back rapidly. This was a true case of muscle memory.
Many people have questioned the validity of this study. A lot of factors came
into play, one of which is genetics. The average man would not have been able to
gain 63 lbs. of raw muscle, which Arthur Jones and myself have been defending
this study for years.
There has been a lot of questions regarding steroid use. Many people claimed
that I loaded up for this experiment. I can honestly say that there was no use
of steroids during this study, which is a very important point.
I was closely monitored in a closed door environment. Believe me, I would have
done anything to have gained that weight, but I knew my rebound potential and I
also knew I would make remarkable gains even before the study began.
The rest factor is very important when an entire body workout is performed.
Proper sleeping and eating habits are also very important factors. When you work
your bodyparts three times a week briefly but intensely your body has to grow.
Proper sequence of pre-exhausting exercises is very important also. The safety
factor is observed very closely, especially during the first part of each
movement. That is when you have the strength to injure your self. The last part
of any exercise is usually not the most dangerous point, your muscles are simply
too weak to injure at that point. Throwing a weight or dropping or lowering a
weight too fast at any time can injure a subject.
The Denver Broncos came in for training sessions and to watch us go through our
fast paced training. Dick Butkus of the Chicago Bears was also there training
and observing what was going on. I was very proud of the results that took place
in Colorado and feel that this study has contributed to the awareness of how
much time is wasted in most individuals workouts. This experiment is still being
studied in colleges across the country today and also can be found on the
Internet.
I must say that I have injured myself on many an occasion in the gym - with
pectoral tears, lower inguinal hernias and many other injuries, however I really
managed to stay injury free using this type of heavy training, so I felt I had
to test out my boundaries. At my current age of 48, I feel this is not safe for
the average man: 750 lbs. squat, 500 lbs. incline bench press, 1500 lbs. leg
presses.
As I mature, I feel moderation would have been better for my overall well being.
Every injury was caused by bad form or explosive movements. If I can teach one
person the hazards of this type of training, I would really be very happy.
If any trainee is considering doing this type of training, I would make sure
that you work at your individual pace and push yourself just enough so you can finish the entire body routine.
Casey also confessed (years afterwards) that after his workouts with Jones he would sneak off to a local gym and get in some more work. Jeff Everson (Cory's ex) has noted this.
Plus most of that gain was simply "muscle memory". Casey ALREADY had most of that mass BEFORE becoming injured and detraining.
As for steroids Casey gained a large part of his muscle mass through them PRIOR to the Colorado Experiment
Now we are supposed to believe that Casey attained his best ever form (or close to it) and got that mass back without using them?
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#15 2007-01-27 19:17
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utiutiu pirma karta girdziu apie tokius rezultatus per toki trumpa laika respect jam
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#16 2007-01-27 20:28
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tai kaip supratau jis pries tai steroidus vartojo ?
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#17 2007-01-27 20:31
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pvl rašė:
tai kaip supratau jis pries tai steroidus vartojo ?
Iš pradžių ar vartojo nežinau. Bet gavęs traumą, numetė daug kg, ir tada pradėjęs savo "ciklą" sėdo ant steroidų su šita programa.
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#18 2007-01-27 20:47
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dabar sis zmogus sukures savo sale ir dirba treneriu http://www.caseyviator.com/casey.html
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#19 2007-01-27 21:11
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pvl rašė:
dabar sis zmogus sukures savo sale ir dirba treneriu http://www.caseyviator.com/casey.html
ieškodamas info buvau suradęs, bet ten toks "gražus" psl. kad iš karto uždariau ten atrodo jo darbo įkainiai kažkur buvo parašyti, tai įspūdingi
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#20 2007-01-27 21:41
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iswada wiena : reik pasidaryt wisiem traumas ir tada uzwaryt steroidu ir i sale
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#21 2007-01-27 21:52
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nesamone kazkokia antzmogis cia ... kas ten per steroidai cia genai ir steroidu ir mitybos derinys , bet 2 kg raumens per trenke negaliu patiket as per menesi tiek priaugu max ................
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#22 2007-01-28 10:45
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marius rašė:
iswada wiena : reik pasidaryt wisiem traumas ir tada uzwaryt steroidu ir i sale
Ir tau nieko nesigaus. Jis prieš traumą buvo gerai užsivaręs, ir tuos kg numetė per gydymosi laikotarpy, o susigrąžint prarastus kg lengviau nei juos užsiaugint iš pradžių + steroidai + mityba + rėžimas. Paprastam žmogui , ne sportininkui, neimanoma
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#23 2007-01-28 14:43
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Toj info, kur 3F įdėjo, tai dar 100 procentu neparašyta kad eksperimento metu jis varė steroidus... Varė prieš tai, o ar vartojo per eksperimentą, lieka nepanetkė
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#24 2007-01-28 18:02
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shtyrius rašė:
Toj info, kur 3F įdėjo, tai dar 100 procentu neparašyta kad eksperimento metu jis varė steroidus... Varė prieš tai, o ar vartojo per eksperimentą, lieka nepanetkė
Kuris kultūristas(neskaitant sintholinių) viešai sako, kad varė steroidus?
Paskutinį kartą taisė 3F (2007-01-28 18:02)
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#25 2007-01-28 18:39
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ce aiskiai parasyta kad ten kruva tyrimu nuo steroidu atlikinejo .. kad tipo ten su steroidais pakliut buvo neimanoma .. as tikiu kad jis ten buves nevartojo steroidu ir svariai priaugo tuos roumenys
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