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Evaldas1994 rašė:

pirmas kursas  susta su metanu 8 sav ar deka susta metanas 6 sav   kuri rinktis  ?

susta metanas

Evaldas1994 rašė:

azuolyno bicas rašė:

Evaldas1994 rašė:

pirmas kursas  susta su metanu 8 sav ar deka susta metanas 6 sav   kuri rinktis  ?

susta metanas

dekui ka po tokio kurso  atsistatymui  pasiulytum?

Turim mes cia tokia PCT skilti.Gal paskaityt malonetum.O paskui jai kas neaisku tai klausk.

Viktorijus rašė:

Ka manot apie 2x savaitej po 250mg sustos ir po 50mg vinio eod?

gerai manom.kiek laiko visas kursas eis,ir kiek laiko vinis?

Paskutinį kartą taisė HRS (2013-01-09 16:22)

HRS rašė:

Viktorijus rašė:

Ka manot apie 2x savaitej po 250mg sustos ir po 50mg vinio eod?

gerai manom.kiek laiko visas kursas eis,ir kiek laiko vinis?

Kursas 6-10sav,ziuresiu kaip seksis,jeigu gerai - nuo 6sav pratesiu iki 8sav,o jei vis dar seksis gerai, tai tada iki 10sav. bet 10sav jau yra maximumas.
Jeigu kursas 10sav, tai vini laikyciau antro kurso puse. jei 8sav - nuo 3sav. jei kursas 6 sav- nuo pat pradzios.

Cia vadinasi noriu kursuot bet nezinau ka. Nu bet noriu

na uzsivedes tikrai piktas
tai jei ne jusu tokie pokalbiai temose tose tai nereiktetu eit per 20lapu.. as nesuprantu ar nusimanant sunku pasakyti ir padeti.

Na mano dileris geras, viskas veikia. Dekui.

Paskutinį kartą taisė buda (2013-01-10 22:36)

tikslas apimtys.

Isverst gal kas gali?
Dekui.

Staffordshire rašė:

daug versti... ten raso kad daug kas naudoja sintoli ir kad kuo didesnes dozes nauduoji chemijos tuo didesnis buni bet kunas turi priimti didesnias dozes su minimaliais pasaliniais. hcg, clomida tamoxifena ir pan irgi laiko kurso metu.

jei sustoji augti tai reikia ne dieta keisti ir ne treniruotes o kelti dozes. pro kulturistam 1g testo doze tai cia skaitosi kad ilsisi nuo kurso. yra laikoma maziausiai 1g testo/sav po 5 metus ir pan.

mes cia turim pavyzdi TNT kur kursavo ant dideliu doziu bet ten nei dietos nei mitybos nebuvo. pas kulturistus siokia tokia dieta yra.

kursas kur surasytas manau patys suprasit pavadinimus ir dozes, cia mazdaug isverciau kad turetumet ideja kas ten rasoma

Gal geriau nevertejauk, nes pats nelabai supratai.

MBQuart rašė:

Staffordshire rašė:

daug versti... ten raso kad daug kas naudoja sintoli ir kad kuo didesnes dozes nauduoji chemijos tuo didesnis buni bet kunas turi priimti didesnias dozes su minimaliais pasaliniais. hcg, clomida tamoxifena ir pan irgi laiko kurso metu.

jei sustoji augti tai reikia ne dieta keisti ir ne treniruotes o kelti dozes. pro kulturistam 1g testo doze tai cia skaitosi kad ilsisi nuo kurso. yra laikoma maziausiai 1g testo/sav po 5 metus ir pan.

mes cia turim pavyzdi TNT kur kursavo ant dideliu doziu bet ten nei dietos nei mitybos nebuvo. pas kulturistus siokia tokia dieta yra.

kursas kur surasytas manau patys suprasit pavadinimus ir dozes, cia mazdaug isverciau kad turetumet ideja kas ten rasoma

Gal geriau nevertejauk, nes pats nelabai supratai.

as mazdaug ka atsiminiau parasiau. o jei nori pats parasyk savo versija arba shut the fuck up. pasakyti kad blogai bet kas gali

azuolyno bicas rašė:

Paimta is UKM forumo, cia kazkada kai buvo kalbeta apie 1-4g testo per sav..

Well, Muscular development is owned by Twin Labs, so they no doubt pump their products and yes there would be some slant in that for money reasons.

Here is an article written by Big A that is a pro, posted here years ago.

Taken from professionalmuscle forum and written by the owner and IFBB Pro:

This site was always set up as an advanced site, where you can find TRUTHFUL information about bodybuilding, not bul**** and ideology promoted by people who generally have agendas.

This is the truth:

If your diet, training, health and rest are completely up to scratch, the more steroids you take, the bigger you will get. It's as simple as that.

Pros have got their diet, training (health for the most part) and rest up to a standard that works for them perfectly, but they are only the size they are due to the drugs they take. Don't beleive the crap from anyone, that they are not, even from the 'in the know' people that are on this board. Those very same people for the most part have used/use extremely higher dosages than what they preach. Why do they preach the low dosages? - various personal agendas.

Reality is that as a rule, 1g per week of test non stop year round is the 'off' time for the pros. Gear is added as it's obtained - no real detailed cycles as such. As long as they take the high dosages of gear, they'll grow (as long as the diet, training, health and sleep is up to scratch as mentioned previously).

Several grams of test per week, several grams of anabolics per week, up to 2g/week of tren, a **** load of orals, insulin several times a day year round, GH as much as can be afforded - 15 to 30IU/day, etc.

BUT, pros have the genetics to have their bodies accept the gear, and generally not get sick on it.

And ancilliary use is huge - liver aids to the max, anti-e's, dht blockers, cardio supps, cholesterol supps, etc.

Still, most of them are complete wrecks. They can't control bodily functions,
they pass out from walking a flight of stairs, they get drenched in sweat from tying their shoelaces. Gyno, baldness, dry skin, gout, excess bodily hair, acne, etc are ALL existant in virtually all of them.

It is not a healthy sport, drug use is ENORMOUS, but to ignore it and to preach otherwise is pathetic and not what this site is about.

BTW, Synthetek's books have on them who's who of current pros ordering Syntherol constantly. They ALL use it extensively. It is pathetic though, when one orders a bottle and their credit card gets declined due to not enough funds. You think a 30+ yo would have his life in order more than that.

Hillys post almost 2 years ago, in red is Phils comments:
Just to add to this guys.

As some of you no i was getting help from phil hernon over on pro muscle. I stoped working with him as when i stoped making gaisn his answere was just more gear no adjustment to diet or training.

when i questioned him he said the realuty and truth is more gear equals more growth. Most pro's and good level amatuers if not all are using alot of gear and thats just the way it is.

i have no reason to doubt him or big a as i believe both of them. below is a post BIG A put up i saved regarding his drug use.

thought it was a good post thats why i kept it.

I never took anything for BP. It was always perfect. Proscar for the prostate and hair loss. HCG/Clomid throughout. Femara and Nolvadex throughout. Niacin, fish oils, green tea, CQ10, aspirin for the cv system. metformin to counteract the insulin resistance. Inj B12 and l-carnintine. Liver aids. T3.

I owned my own vet drug company at the time, so I was paying less than $50 for a 500ml vial of test prop of 100mg/ml. That would last 1 year at 1g/week. All other gear was either through my vet company or on script through my pharmacy that I partially own. 50ml Stan was $18. 10ml Deca was $12 and so on. GH was the only expensive thing at $500 for 24IU.
So apart from the GH, the stuff to keep me healthy cost WAY more than the gear itself.

I do need to point out, that I did build up to that over many years, the way BBoy said. I didn't just jump from 250mg/week to the above regimen.

Also, Steele's post is spot on. Getting to pro size is having the genetics to accept the drugs in any quantity without sides. Most people don't have that ability.

And no, I didnt' have any mental issues that I remember. If anything, I am much happier on gear than off.

Personal experience - 1g/week of test in the form of Sustanon or Test Prop was my non stop base for many years. I lost count of the years when I was doing that, but it was way over 5.

Then I would 'cycle' on top of that - 3g of test/week, 1g/week anabolics, orals, insulin, gh.

Never had any sides. BP was always 120/80. Hdl/LDL was fine. No libido issues. Recovery did not take long when I stopped. Years later I fathered 2 children, while on hrt. No hairloss, no prostate issues, no gyno.

I was getting full health check ups (blood, heart, ultrasounds of liver, etc) every 3 months and every 4 weeks when cycling. I was using a HUGE amount of drugs/products to make sure I was getting no sides

Taken from another board Tom Princes cycle:

Week #1: 4 iu's GH/day; 4 x Sostenon 250 mg.; 200 mg. Deca Durabolin; 1 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day

Week #2: 4 iu's GH/day; 5 x Sostenon 250 mg.; 200 mg. Deca Durabolin; 1 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day

Week #3: 4 iu's GH/day; 5 x Sostenon 250 mg.; 200 mg. Deca Durabolin; 2 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; (pre a.m. workout) 2 x 25 mg. ephedrine tab, 200 mg. caffeine tab

Week #4: 4 iu's GH/day; 6 x Sostenon 250 mg.; 400 mg. Deca Durabolin; 2 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; (pre a.m. workout) 2 x 25 mg. ephedrine tab, 200 mg. caffeine tab

Week #5: 6iu's GH/day; 6 x Sostenon 250 mg.; 400 mg. Deca Durabolin; 2 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; (pre a.m. workout) 3 x 25 mg. ephedrine tab, 200 mg. caffeine tab

Week #6: 6 iu's GH/day; 6 x Sostenon 250 mg.; 400 mg. Deca Durabolin; 2 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; (pre a.m. workout) 3 x 25 mg. ephedrine tab, 200 mg. caffeine tab

Week #7: off; 5000 iu HCG/day; 2 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 4 clenbuterol/day (2 days on 1 day off); 300 mg. caffeine x 6 days/week (a.m. only)

Week #8: off; 2 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 4 clenbuterol/day (2 days on 1 day off); 300 mg. caffeine x 6 days/week (a.m. only)

Week #9: 6 iu's GH/day; 1200 mg. Test Cypionate; 600 mg. Deca Durabolin; 150 mg. Winstrol-V (50 mg. each M-W-F); 4 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 4 x 25 mg. ephedrine tab, 300 mg. caffeine tab (a.m. only)


Week #10: 6 iu's GH/day; 1200 mg. Test Cypionate; 600 mg. Deca Durabolin; 150 mg. Winstrol-V (50 mg. each M-W-F); 4 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 4 x 25 mg. ephedrine tab, 300 mg. caffeine tab (a.m. only)

Week #11: 6 iu's GH/day; 1200 mg. Test Cypionate; 600 mg. Deca Durabolin; 150 mg. Winstrol-V (50 mg. each M-W-F); 4 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 5 x Clenbuterol tabs, 300 mg. caffeine tab (a.m. only)


Week #12: 6 iu's GH/day; 1200 mg. Test Cypionate; 600 mg. Deca Durabolin; 150 mg. Winstrol-V (50 mg. each M-W-F); 4 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 5 x Clenbuterol tabs, 400 mg. caffeine tab (a.m. only)


Week #13: 6 iu's GH/day; 1200 mg. Test Cypionate; 600 mg. Deca Durabolin; 300 mg. Winstrol-V (100 mg. each M-W-F); 6 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 2 x 20 mg. Nolvadex tabs/day; 5 x 25 mg. Ephedrine tab, 400 mg. caffeine tab (a.m. only)


Week #14: 6 iu's GH/day; 1500 mg. Test Cypionate; 600 mg. Deca Durabolin; 300 mg. Winstrol-V (100 mg. each M-W-F); 6 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 2 x 20 mg. Nolvadex tabs/day; 6 x 25 mg. ephedrine tab, 400 mg. caffeine tab (a.m. only)


Week #15: off 6 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 2 x 20 mg. Nolvadex tabs/day; 6 x 25 mg. ephedrine tab, 400 mg. caffeine tab (a.m. only)


**Week #16: off; 6 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 2 x 20 mg. Nolvadex tabs/day; 10 x Clenbuterol tab (Sun, Mon, Tue only), 400 mg. caffeine tab (a.m. only)


**Day of contest was at the end of 16th Week.

nu tai ymetei zmogaus kuras kuris olimpijoj10tuke,ir ka paziurek testo 1,6max
dekos 600max
tai paprastiem mirtingiesiem 750 testo per akis dekos 400 per akis ir tai jau kalbam dideliam svoriui.iki simto ir 500testo ir 400 dekos per akis.aisku jei ten tas kas turi buti:)